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David McD |
Posted: 30-Jul-10 08:57 |
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A friend of mine is looking for a good Irish shipwreck song. "The Mermaid" isn't exactly what he wants. Any suggestions? Thanks. |
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Steve |
Posted: 30-Jul-10 11:02 |
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Try Ronnie Drew belting out "Donegal Danny" |
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Spud Murphy |
Posted: 30-Jul-10 13:50 |
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I collect songbooks for fun, and also to know what I'm singing about! It's a hobby! Looking through "Irish Songs of the Sea" by James N. Nealy.The 1995 print by Ossian publications Cork, and the original(I didn't know I had both until now!)"Irish Ballads and songs of the Sea" Mercier press 1967 Cork,Under "Contents" in the original '67 version under "Wrecks" is listed- page 53-"The Pouldduff Fisherman(quote)pg.54-"The Pomona"pg.56-"The French 'Cavavaille'-pg.57"The Loss of the Hantoon"-pg.59-"Baidin Fheidhlimidh(Phelims'wee boat)-pg.60"The Rescue of the Vivandiere"pg.61."The Sorrowful Fate of O'Brien"-pg. 63-"The Sinking of the Lusitania"(Quote)-pg.64"The Fate of the Mailboat" No music in the first edition to these.In the 2nd edition, which may still be in print, has music to some of the above,and two others not in the 1st-"The Sinking of the Muirchu" and that old favourite "The Irish Rover" // "The Good Ship Calabar" doesn't get a mention under wrecks, for it was on dry land! I hope I was of some help to you. I have a pretty decent collection of songs, not the best,but not the worst either! Anyone looking for songs,I will be more than glad to help where I can. Be patient on the reply, I was to send someone off this site, some material a while back, and because I didn't drop what I was doing, and there were delays involved,no money involved,(Which wouldn't have made it go any faster!) I was almost took to the tree by him, and other members who joined in on his plight! When he FINALLY got the package, I was the best thing since sliced bread!Yes,I am on Irish time and Irish temperment! That said, enjoy the music and the songs! |
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tony |
Posted: 30-Jul-10 15:17 |
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threescore and ten----clancys an makem on album sing of the sea |
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RealJack |
Posted: 30-Jul-10 15:23 |
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Well, the one that comes to my mind is the ballad:
"Three Score and Ten."
On this site, at http://www.liamclancy.com/tabs/threesco.htm
it gives the lyrics and says:
*Recorded by the The Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem on
"Sing of the Sea"
There's more about the song at:
http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/lyrics/three_score_and_ten.html
If you're looking for a heart wringer, this oughta' do it. I love
it, but I'm a sucker for a sad song...
And The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald should qualify as an Irish shi
pwreck song. Lightfoot used an Irish melody (was it: "I Wish
I Was Back Home in Mayo"?) to go with his Canadian/American lyrics.
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tony |
Posted: 30-Jul-10 15:56 |
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real jack --ha both ret. an even though were 6 seconds away an many a miles -may i recommend readings on carl jung synchronizeing or possibly a meditative approach to theological similaritys an common alitys --its funny really somethin ive discussd forlong times here on the board with liam an the crew (i mean, its not me actually -- one only has to look at the chronological order of the clancys an makems lives an success-s in the liams book mt of woman an the retrospect film and other historical refs(as sullivan shows fill in) an i believe they can or may be convinced that it was much much more than that fool-ish word co -incidence, right my clancy friend ) --good luck ta ya jack your clancy friend tony --what always came to my mind on edm fitz was" i once love a lass "by the clancys (that might have to be proven )
[Edited by tony on 31-Jul-10 00:08] |
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Spud Murphy |
Posted: 31-Jul-10 00:15 |
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I don't want to sound mean, but I thought the request was for "Irish Shipwreck Songs" "Threescore and Ten" is an English song, a great song indeed! And the other song mentioned above is "I wish I was back home in Derry" Lightfoot's tune with words by Bobby Sands MP,the first hunger striker to die in 1981, I'm not sure if Bik Mc Farlane helped with the words,(Don't know if I spelled his name right,I'm not at home to check, and the memory is not always right!)Again, I'm just trying to help,not to be a stick in the mud!! Good luck on your search, and now I'm going to have to dig out "Sing Of the Sea" when I get home, and give Ol' Threescore a whirl!!!! Forgot what a great song it is! Thanks for the reminder!! That whole Lp is great, again, Columbia or Sony or whoever, should release that in it's ORIGINAL form. Better chance of hittng the lotto! |
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tony |
Posted: 31-Jul-10 12:02 |
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spud -your learnin what i seem to be forgetn ---more than likely your right,you are right its not irish then again ---accordin to pat clancy on the album he says the wreck occured off the coast of england --- by readin that album cover wheather the domain of the writer of the song or the song was english we the ordinary listener probably wouldnt know ! now an bein on a clancy album i dont think most of the time i wonder when an where it came from.....now bein like yourself if i may say, haven the correct story is where its really at---the song itself was collected by a yorkshire man named nigel hudelstone ---he recorded it as sung by some fisherman at filey on the yorkshire coast some 100 miles from brismby... in the 1800s willy delf(now there's a real saint ) was a fisherman in grismsby whosa tried to help the orphans and widows of shipwreck sailors by writeing poems and sell thecopies to help - the money going to these dependents --threescore an 10 was a poem of his ----read this also-----this is interesting to believers who may think its not totally english ---till this day no one knows the origin of the tune and the chorus ---- come to 1960s most singers and groups took these songs a bit up town changed a word or 2 arranged an adapted the song(s) a little a lot .which the cla ncy s did also ,and took the credit ...so i dont know my clancy friend ..spud whats what any more ...i would agree an do agree with you spud that most likely its not from ireland in and of itself the philosphoical questin would be if someone is listein to david singin it (the listiner ) and he mentiond the clancy s sang (or he was singin clancy songs -aka irish-) --- would the person(s) hes signin it too know it wasnt an irish song becoz he or they believed at the time it was a irish song ---theres where an what i have to sit out in the yard on me fallin tree log an ponder philospoically with a nice glass of friut brandy now thanks to you spud --spud---your clancy friend tony
[Edited by tony on 31-Jul-10 12:22] |
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RealJack |
Posted: 31-Jul-10 13:28 |
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Spud,
You don't sound mean at all. Thanks to you and our
clancy friend tony (who uses lower case in both tony
& clancy) I know a few things about 2 good songs that
I never would have otherwise known. That's one of the
reasons I read what's on this board.
That said, I always feel that when Liam sang a song,
no matter if it was American or Canadian or whatever,
he suffused it with at least a noticeable bit of the
inexhaustible spirit of Ireland. A good example of what
I mean is his rendition of Gordon Lightfoot's Early
Morning Rain.
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David McD |
Posted: 31-Jul-10 18:13 |
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thanks to all for the good suggestions... |
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oldduke20 |
Posted: 01-Aug-10 09:10 |
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Thanks to this discussion, I know a little bit more about our songs than I did this morning! Now, I'm off to find them - I'll go to
i-Tunes first. |
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Pat 56 |
Posted: 01-Aug-10 16:41 |
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I think I've found an Irish shipwreck song....sort of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hrs_SOOx8
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tony |
Posted: 03-Aug-10 07:57 |
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as were writeing somewhat of shipwrecks - laim on his solo album had the song anac cuan if any one was into a listenin of it ...kinda of slow to be singin out at a party or bar ---wasnt it decent to hear on that album of his now and before...t |
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DOCSHADOW |
Posted: 03-Aug-10 21:40 |
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Yeah, tony, that was and still is one of my favorite songs from that fine album. But there is a YouTube recording of Liam singing it along with telling the story of the wreck. Liam proves that the song can be used in a riveting live performance.
Cheers to all,
doc |
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tony |
Posted: 04-Aug-10 00:44 |
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thanks doc -started over there around 12pm just got back goin on 2 am listen to liam an anac an so many sea songs so many wreck songs doc im begin'g ta smell the salt sea ----your clancy friend tony
[Edited by tony on 04-Aug-10 07:25] |
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